Super Tuesday
Today's primaries should eliminate Bloomberg and provide some indication as to whether Democrats are looking to offer up the creep or the socialist as an offering to the God-Emperor:
It took a little longer than it sometimes does, but the early primary and caucus states performed their traditional role in the process of winnowing the field of candidates. The results of Super Tuesday will answer some big questions about the race.Translation: the usual suspects have lost control of the party to the diversity. And let's not forget 538's final projections before they are vanished in the aftermath of the actual results:
First, the results today will tell us what the two main coalitions really look like. The first four small states offered clues, but the total number of voters in the 14 Super Tuesday states is exponentially larger. Sanders seems to have failed to grow his support among African Americans much beyond his 2016 percentages, but he has made inroads among Latino voters. He remains dominant among young voters and does better on the coasts and in the northeast. Biden is the candidate of African Americans, suburban moderates, the South, and older voters.
Many of the differences between these two groups are cultural, not ideological. But inside the Democratic Party there is a debate not unlike the one that divides the two main parties about the breadth of change that Washington should pursue. The Democrats’ moderate wing, which is now anchored by older black voters in the south, remains deeply skeptical of Sanders-style socialism, while the New New left, powered by young radicals in big cities, is repelled by the incrementalism of Biden.
- 484 Biden
- 463 Sanders
- 222 Bloomberg
- 162 Warren
UPDATE: initial returns look good for Biden, flat for Sanders, poor for Bloomberg.
UPDATE: Biden is projected to win both Virginia and North Carolina. With the projections this early, that means he's winning them handily.
UPDATE: Biden is projected to win both Virginia and North Carolina. With the projections this early, that means he's winning them handily.
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Another golem created and lost control of. Who could have seen this coming?
One could say that they are being consumed by the beast they encouraged
I love how the Democrats' early voting scheme is blowing up in their faces.
As a Republican in Virginia and I plan on voting for Biden. I think the memes will be funnier.
Sanders should refer to Biden as "junior" and "sonnyboy."
I'm seeing a split among the New Left :
>SJWs woketards
>intelligent socialists
The SJWs... well you know about them (since our host literally wrote the book about them).
The new socialists, tho, are quite different. They sound a lot like the new, alternative right did in 2016. Bernie is to them what Trump was to the alt-right.
Warren is their lyin' Ted.
They're populist, they despise the DNC. And they don't care about political correctness. They say that the USA is now ran by an oligarchy whose controlling politics, the economy, culture, education and the media (both mainstream and electronic). They want to destroy that oligarchy whose oppressing the working class.
Unfortunately for them and for populism at large, Bernie will likely lose (again) against the DNC. The Democratic Party elites will use any mechanism to prevent him from obtaining the nomination if he doesn’t have a majority of delegates in the first count.
What would have the New Right done had Trump been crushed by the RNC?
The populist New Left will have no choice but to revolt against the DNC.
Diversity + Proximity x DNC machinations = Mikwaukee's gonna Bern
Why aren't older blacks/blacks in general down with socialism? Is it the man presenting it?
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It's pretty apparent that the fix is in against Bernie Sanders.
Some very fortuitous dropping and subsequent endorsement of Biden.
Let's see how it plays out.
Anyone struck by the irony of white octogenarians fighting it out for the nomination of the "progressive" party.
if Biden takes on Hillary as a running mate we may all want to avoid riding Amtrak for a while.
Given that "elites" would like to sink the future (2024+) for white men, older, and not sink socialism, the projection fits the narrative. A loss for the (((socialist))), but not by such a wide margin as to be damaging into the future of the Party. The Forgetables can be blamed on personality or timing, and did not have enough presence to ding their issues too severely among the brain damaged.
I think it’s because Bernie is serious about it and it’s obvious to almost anyone who can do basic math it would be economic suicide. Crazy uncle Joe represents the status quo. That is to say, more of the same of the things they like.
Biden/Clinton or Sanders/Corn Pop? One cannot imagine a more far fetched scenario than what we will see.
>It's pretty apparent that the fix is in against Bernie Sanders. Some very fortuitous dropping and subsequent endorsement of Biden.
Obama will endorse Biden soon. I'm guessing everyone else but Warren and Bernie will drop out. (Warren is a DNC plant there to harm Bernie.)
If Joe is the nominee, could he pick Michelle Obama as his VP?
Jpc wrote:It's pretty apparent that the fix is in against Bernie Sanders.
Some very fortuitous dropping and subsequent endorsement of Biden.
Let's see how it plays out.
Anyone struck by the irony of white octogenarians fighting it out for the nomination of the "progressive" party.
Those "white octogenarians" are merely the hippies of the 1960s fighting for their reverse mortgages, pensions, and free chemotherapy.
"blacks in general down with socialism"
Biden will keep the money flowing to the plantation, while (((others))) will spread it thin by adding whites to the plantation. When (((individuals))) are activists for primarily black causes is when the public solidarity comes in.
FUBARwest wrote:Why aren't older blacks/blacks in general down with socialism? Is it the man presenting it?
Maybe leftover programming from the Cold War era? Maybe the older Blacks have some employment history, don't like the idea of their earnings being stolen for somebody else's gibs? Your earnings being stolen for their ne'er-do-well relatives' gibs is different of course.
Maybe they just hate Jews.
They will be shouting Biden's praises for the moment but it won't last.
They view him as preferable to Bernie but not by much.
It's not hard to make him look corrupt and it's impossible to make him look mentally competent.
It still looks like there will be brokered convention.
And the Bernie Bros are going to be eight kinds of pissed when Bernie doesn't get the nod.
Trump is still horse to bet on.
Seem to remember Michelle Obama saying no to political high office. The haggling for the VP is well over. Mayor Peter or Amy?
Yeah. Never thrust anyone over 95!:)
"Anyone struck by the irony of white octogenarians fighting it out for the nomination of the "progressive" party."
After Stalin died, all of the successive leaders of the Soviet, and the Central Politburo looked like finalists for a Whole will be the Oldest Man in Russia competition.
Leftism is fundamentally unable to defend itself from grifters and those who intend to be "rulers for life." The only way to get old people out of the DNC is for them to die.
The "rulers for life" types, while they care about the health of the party (because that's where their power derives from), they don't want to bring in new blood, out of fear of being displaced from their positions of power within the party.
The grifters are in it purely for the graft, embezzlement, and influence peddling, and never cared about the party to begin with.
And the Democrats have now gone for 26 years under the control of grifters (16 years under the Clintons, 10 years and counting under Obama).
The entirety of the DNC (which is not to say their party members)
There is some credible speculation that Bob Iger is going to make a play for the nomination in the event of a brokered convention.
It's not that crazy of an idea.
The only thing running for the Democratic nomination gets you is your name dragged through the dirt. Just look at Bloomy.
The former CEO is reasonably popular with people who aren't Star Wars fans.
And an aggressive buyout of Mexico would solve most of the illegal immigration problems overnight.
Methuselah wept.
Gabbard hanging on. Expectations or cussedness?
538's equivocations are hilarious. They reduced themselves to something along the lines of: "now that is infinitely easier to predict the actual results with so few candidates remaining, basically, it definitively and absolutely could possibly turn out okay for Biden, or else Sanders. But don't forget Warren and Bloomberg! Gabbard likely won't win, unless something crazy happens."
I will bet anyone $5 that MiniMike stays in it til the convention.
>Bob Iger
You're right. From Market Watch:
"If no candidate goes to the 2020 Democratic National Convention in Milwaukee in July with a majority of delegates, then party leaders will pick the top of the ticket. [...] In the past, negotiations about who might lead the ticket began before delegates even made it to the convention.
[...] If a compromise, outside candidate is needed, Iger has already stated what his platform would look like."
555 for Bloomberg...that's the same number as Hitler's party number.
And now we are up to 9 deaths from Coronavirus in the US. There will be real panic when it hits 100.
John Cunningham wrote:I will bet anyone $5 that MiniMike stays in it til the convention.
I agree.
He can self-finance through to the convention so there is no real reason for him to quit unless a brokered convention is taken off the table.
After all, who knows who can win at a brokered convention. It likely wouldn't be Bernie or Biden.
Warren will try to stay in for the same reason but she is more dependent on fund raising then Bloomberg.
This feels just like John McCain 2008. Which is fine because it will end the same.
I don't know if either of these two men will actually survive a debate encounter w/President Trump. What happens if they die on the campaign trail?
Dems will run George Clooney, thats what.
The blacks that are down with socialism are usually fairly professional looking but have that murder glint in their eyes.
The many that aren't might be explained by extensive experience with government in their personal lives. There's no single group more experimented on to deleterious effect with the exception of the native Americans.
Those latinos love them some communism. Bernie is just an old Che, they want to re-viva la revolucion! Bernie's their man.
Blacks like anyone "attached" to civil rights era of 60s and 70s, even the frauds. See Jackson, Sharpton, er.. er.. fuck it, see all of 'em. Joe Biden Has a Dream.
It's gonna be hard for the Gibmedats to make a final decision, but it will come down to max freebies, so I'm guessing Bernie - but then again Bernie will get railroaded by the DNC so I am guessing violence will ensue.
A small fraction of latinos and blacks will shrug and say "actually working for a living ain't all that bad, I guess I'll vote for Trump."
So I think Trump gets re-elected, but just as the devil never sleeps, neither do leftist agitators. Expect more violence, condoned by the media, blamed on Trump and regular folks like me.
If Rs get the House/keep Senate, the swamp will drain much faster and maybe the left will back off when they see a good portion of their brethren finally, rightfully jailed.
I think Breadline Bernie will have the votes to take it all, but we'll see. The party establishment has obviously aligned against him.
Calling it now: Micheal Obama and Hillary will be running on the same ticket.
I just hope that Biden wins and selects the black land-whale as his VP.
> ...but then again Bernie will get railroaded by the DNC so I am guessing violence will ensue.
We can but hope.
John Cunningham wrote:I will bet anyone $5 that MiniMike stays in it til the convention.
I won't take that bet because I agree. Vox has been consistent is his view that Mini-Mike is doomed.
I don't think so.
Yes, Creepy Joe appeals to the brothers and sisters, but the party bosses know that during a debate with the GE, he will find new ways to mis-express himself, and have the whole world see he is going to lose the election, with all the nasty down ballot consequences, and shortly thereafter get wheeled into a nursing home.
Nope, right now Creepy Joe's role is to stop the Marxist.
When the convention moves into the second ballot, as it surely will, the second thoughts will be creeping into the super delegates.
"Joe's a walking Alzheimer's patient -- he's got more plaque in his brain that Flint has sewage in the drinking water. What are we going to do? Pocahantas? Nah..."
And they will look to Mini-Mike -- and say...
"Shit, Mikey has all his faculties, has all that money he's willing to spend on us, and he actually appears to have some normal level of cognitive function.
"Why not? We'll probably still lose, but maybe, just maybe we can salvage a couple of House seats and maybe turn enough Senate seats with his dough to prevent some Federalist Society fascist from taking Ginsberg's seat when she inevitably croaks."
Now, this would be a rational thing to do, and the evil party can certainly be irrational, but it all makes sense.
I don't think Biden has been as explicit on splitting the loot to include the New Americans as the other clowns. Let them fight, encourage it.
Very interesting observations to read.
The bookies currently have Trump at 1 to 3, which is value if the Republicans can enforce the vote fraud laws...Anyway, in CA and AZ, I have seen no visible support for anyone except Bernie, amongst the populace.
Here is the Super Tuesday forecast from 538 (the OP has 538's forecast for delegate totals for the convention later this year):
Coot: 484
Mini: 222
Joot: 463
Faux: 162
Sanders-Gabbard ticket would be epic. Is that why she's sticking around? Oh, we can only hope.
Michelle failed her prostate exam.
>After all, who knows who can win at a brokered convention. It likely wouldn't be Bernie or Biden.
If Biden wins a plurality of delegates after an Obama endorsement, he'll be the nominee;
If Bernie wins a plurality, the DNC will pick someone else. And Milwaukee will likely burn.
They need to keep Biden in to keep the impeachment fires burning and to protect him from Barr looking into Democrats corruption in the Ukraine.
Why aren't older blacks/blacks in general down with socialism? Is it the man presenting it?
Because tribal cultures have no false belief in equality.
A lot of blacks saw the Trump Superbowl commercial. I think some younger and older blacks will cast votes for him. The others will stay home. They won’t vote for white or especially (((fellow white))) Dems anymore. Thanks Barry!
@27: Concur. Bloomberg is the DNC's insurance policy in case Biden's sclerotic brain breaks.
Crazy Bernie fans today stormed the stage where Klobitcher was shilling for Creepy Joe and forced organizers to end her event early.
I hope Crazy Bernie breaks through today and destroys the Democrat Party.
And I hope he wins the nomination and names a Wobbly cabinet, makes "Joe Hill" his campaign song, and turns what's left of the party into an ostjuden eruption like the NYC garment unions of 100 years ago. I want to see despair on the smooth, latte-fattened faces of North Virginia technocrats.
538.com:
if Biden enters the convention with 46 percent of delegates and former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg with 10 percent, they could strike a deal where Bloomberg delegates vote for Biden on the first ballot.
Ya, I was wondering about that.
I'm torn....
On the one hand, there's everyone talking about a Bernie nomination leading to a Republican tsunami in November, so go Bernie!
On the other, if you could pick the leader of your opposition, Biden's on the short list. A bumbling incompetent and long-time presidential loser.
Bernie's actually a talented politician, or he wouldn't be where he is despite his politics. He also rolls over for the powers-that-be whenever the chips are really down.
So I'm sticking with Creepy Uncle Joe.
Why aren't older blacks/blacks in general down with socialism? Is it the man presenting it?
They already have it. Free medical care, free college, etc. For the most part. Medicare for all! Who cares if you already have Medicaid?
Bernie is socialism for the striver class. Medicare for grad students!
Bernie wins the popular vote. Biden takes the nomination.
Here is the Super Tuesday forecast from 538
Thanks, corrected.
Biden will keep the money flowing to the plantation, while (((others))) will spread it thin by adding whites to the plantation.
Exactly. Blacks already get all the benefits of socialism in everything from welfare to race-based business grants, paid for by whites laboring away under bankster capitalism. Bernie would try to give everyone a slice of that zero-sum pie, leaving a smaller piece for blacks.
He would soon destroy the pie altogether, but they don't realize that. They just don't want to share.
Why aren't older blacks/blacks in general down with socialism?
Who says they aren't. The statement that "the Democrats’ moderate wing, which is now anchored by older black voters in the south, remains deeply skeptical of Sanders-style socialism" is far from proven. 'Moderate' Dems are just as keen on redistributing the wealth of everyone "richer" than them, they just believe they're more subtle about it.
A likelier explanation of the DNC's animus to Sanders: they don't like Bernie's "too white" base and their "first world problems".
Nope its entirely the gay thing. Same in the all important rust belt. Old Joe they know and figure he doesnt mean anything with queer support but bernie, well he a weirdo and a word they dont really get, plus the jewish thing is a problem thing for them on the dl.
People who think this surely is the big one unlike the last big one that did nothing forget that regular flu kills way more than what even China has lost and if it hasnt razed that nation of bot people who live on top of each other to the ground, itll be a blip here. Remember itll be warm soon a flu season dies quick in the heat.
Well...it's looking like Bloombigot's money can't buy him love. Or votes.
For which I am devoutly grateful. He worried me.
Now it looks like it will come down to Bernie the Commie or Crooked Creepy Joe. And were I Trump, I'm not sure which I'd prefer to crush.
IF Trump has the nerve to do it, which I am not confident of, he can win the election about five minutes into the first debate. Biden is easily arrested for Bribery and a slew of other felonies. Dragged off in handcuffs. Election over. Or he could just run on Joe the Dementia Patient. Who the Democrat leadership is supporting not from any belief that he can win, but a belief that he can keep the downticket losses to a minimum.
Bernie the Commie? He's got supporters that Biden lacks. And plans that are straight out of the Gulags. Easy peasy.
The only political fun I'm having today is the exchange between this Lady Maga character and Stonetoss.
Now all that has to happen is Bloomberg doing what he does best. Sit back and watch some lefty fireworks. But my main concern beyond that is if the democrats fall apart, there will be plenty of Republicans thinking they can "fill the void" if you know what I mean.
Why Biden? They perhaps think they can use him running to keep a major unraveling of the Ukraine corruption from happening?
Bernie knows he's getting screwed again, but he doesn't even care. There isn't even irritation on his face when he is directly confronted with that fact.
Think of the campaign billboards (or memes) if it is Biden (with appropriate pictures):
Biden/Corn Pop 2020!
Biden 2020--Totally not creepy!
Biden 2020-- totally not senile!
Etc.
Because blacks want socialism's gibs for themselves and no one else. For the past half century they've been the only recipients.
@61
You are very easily worried and startled, as has been said earlier. Even more than (((Bernie))) and (((Bloomberg))).
Well, at least Mini-Mike won American Samoa!
I can't believe that the back-room puppet masters actually want to put a senile, guffaw-prone pervert criminal forward rather than a perfectly good candidate like.... like....
.... OK I guess I can see their point.
Some day, Joe Biden's campaign is going to make a very, very funny movie
Looks like Biden took Alabama too.
I just finished exit polling in a predominantly (99%) black neighborhood in Memphis. If I believed it was a legitimate threat I’d be convinced I was taking Corona Chan home with me. One man was seen wearing face mask and gloves.
Biden blew everyone out of the water with 310 of the 435 votes. Bloomberg received 59, Sanders - 52, Warren - 12, and Gabbard - 2. The few young (18-29) voters that showed up seemed to all vote for Sanders. It was amazing to see how many gun owning blacks who called themselves moderate or conservative voted for Biden. Especially after announcing he’ll put Robert Francis in charge of gun control.
Early yet but Warren's running a weak 3rd at the moment in her home state. Obviously she's just hanging around to split the hard left vote with Bernie so Biden can win.
Meanwhile,35 years after the Almighty Reagan informed us that "Hispanics are Republicans who just don't know it yet", they're voting heavily for a proud communist.
Democratic party can't cede too much of the white vote--they HAVE to maintain the charade that they're NOT the political party of anti-white. Thus, Creepy Joe Biden, creepy as he is, will be the face of the party versus the (((millionaire))) or the (((billionaire))).
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/01/bernie-brings-it.html#c2053090806632275503
Bernie wins Colorado, as you might expect. I would say 'at least he doesn't have dementia,' but I'm not sure that's true.
Bernie is stirring them up in Vermont ... a real socialist statement, but will that translate to other states?
Expect to hear a lot about criminal justice reform and "Biden is the REAL racist" from the Trump campaign if Biden is the nominee.
Shocking: The Apache Nation isn’t even going for Warren.
@61 - "IF Trump has the nerve to do it, which I am not confident of, he can win the election about five minutes into the first debate. Biden is easily arrested for Bribery and a slew of other felonies. Dragged off in handcuffs. Election over."
This might be the stupidest notion ever posited in these comments. Can you figure out why?
If Li'l Berg doesn't get the nomination, then he has no reason to live. Especially with his little hands, little eyes and walking around telling great big lies'
Another observation of the news coverage: Apparently, the formal Dem pundit term in 2020 for the traditional democrat dead voter is being termed “the late breakers.”
Looks like Biden gets the Corn Pop vote.
Seriously what a shitshow. Are we tired of democracy yet?
Holy Christ, Biden’s opening remarks confused introducing his wife as his sister and his sister as his wife on the stage in CA.
Or maybe that’s just the way the Creepy Biden family does things.
tuberman wrote:Bernie knows he's getting screwed again, but he doesn't even care. There isn't even irritation on his face when he is directly confronted with that fact.
Pushing Socialism in order to be bought off is an entrepreneurial move. He can get house #4 after this. It may be (((sneaky))) but it's a living.
Biden finishes 4th (and non-viable) in Utah, 3rd in Colorado. Western Joe-mentum is a no-go.
LOL, Bloomberg spends half a BILLION $$s to only win in American Samoa.
I just have to wrap my mind around the guy who's excited to vote for Biden... are they already applying "the lesser of two evils" cliche at the ballot box?
Most black voters know that Sanders will gib lots more dat to White people. And with typical zero sum logic, that means gib less to blacks.
i'm excited to vote for Biden.
Both belong in a nursing home.
So how does Virgina have 100% of the voters show up? We don’t do this by party, so 100% turnout means absolutely everyone showed up to vote, right? I don’t think that happened.
Maybe there is something I don’t understand, but I d feel better if it got cleaned up before November.
In these primaries, minority votes are based on negatives, not positives. Blacks won't vote for any candidate they think will pander to hispanics. Hispanics throw their votes against whichever candidate they suspect is in bed with blacks. Any true polling would expose the inter-ethnic warfare going on all the time in Dem constituencies.
It be excitin' to vote for Biden.
The lesser of 4 evils.
"So how does Virgina have 100% of the voters show up? We don’t do this by party, so 100% turnout means absolutely everyone showed up to vote, right? I don’t think that happened."
How do Detroit and other Democrat-run cities cast more ballots than their entire populations (including children)?
The lesser of 4 evils.
“Who is Mike Bloomberg?”
@64 "Bernie knows he's getting screwed again, but he doesn't even care. There isn't even irritation on his face when he is directly confronted with that fact."
Q drop: 461
Title: Great Actors
4 Jan 2018 - 12:54:28 AM
What makes a movie GOOD?
GREAT actors?
Q
@Scuzzaman.
Correct. Choose the next catagory.
It was amazing to see how many gun owning blacks who called themselves moderate or conservative voted for Biden.
I can't find the article right now, but John Ross explained this years ago (or rather, a black friend explained it to him): even gun-owning, conservative blacks generally have some felons in the family, and they don't want them shot by their victims. So while they want to be armed to defend themselves in the current situation, they'd prefer no one were. Blood beats ideology every time.
@Akulkis
I’ll take “LopSided Bloodsport” for $500,000,000 please.
At Unz Review it was observed that there may not be much political philosophy in the ghetto but there was several generations of selective breeding for obedience.
“Vote for Biden!”
Biden wins.
This may be the point where the personalities and hubris of the campaign followers may tell the rest of the story.
I am betting that the Bloomberg and Warren voters will turn out to be Biden voters before the end of the month. The Bernie Bros have been their usual pushy and overly aggressive selves with these voters and those confrontations are going to drive them into the Biden camp. Bernie, himself, is prickly enough but when you add threats from the "communist revolutionaries", who are so frustrated again. Yes, so "close" they can almost taste it. The same candidate that was going to trounce Trump in November (so say all the polls!) cannot sell his snake oil in the Democrat party. Forget the general election.
Daniel wrote:Biden finishes 4th (and non-viable) in Utah, 3rd in Colorado. Western Joe-mentum is a no-go.
In 2016, Utah voted 69 percent for Ted Cruz in a March primary. The Mormons were angry that Trump cancelled plans to come to their debate too. In the general election, Trump inched out Clinton, while more Utah votes were cast for Third Party candidates than any other state. Utah may not be a state you would try to make into a trend.
I think delegates are pledged to their designated candidate on the first ballot. I could be wrong - the DNC rules are arcane, plus Little-Gulp Mike can always pay to have them changed.
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